Saturday, February 4, 2017

Dialogue Between Katie, Matt, and Ex-Army

Katie:

Social Justice Warriors are leftists who have stared into the abyss until the abyss stared back into them. In their crusade against monsters called racism and sexism, they have become the racist, sexist monsters. Similarly, anarchists are libertarians who have stared into the abyss called "government" until they no longer cared how severely or how often liberty is violated, as long as those who violate it do not call themselves government. The alt-right must walk a fine line and remember not just what it is fighting against, but what it is fighting for, if it is to avoid the mistakes of the monsters of the 1930s.

Matt:

Mistakes of the "1930s":
Not developing a long range strategic bomber.
Not speeding up development of the Me-262 jet fighter.
Attacking the Soviets too soon.
These are examples of ACTUAL Nazi mistakes, defined as things which prevent your objectives and victory. OTOH, it is a mistake to classify "stomping the crap out of enemies in a not nice manner" in and of itself as a mistake. That's how you win. The Left's policy of using violence to suppress Alt Right speech IS a victory for them, UNLESS we use it to get the somnolent average Joes on our side to destroy the Left. That's the objective, not some mythical level playing field that has never existed.
Curing ideology-induced autism, my neverending quest. But if I beat the disease you can too!

I'm not advocating Naziism as my preferred form of government btw. I'm simply pointing out that "not becoming a monster" isn't a goal. If you want to take on Godzilla, you need King Kong.


Most rank and file Left and Right folks in America want to live in basically the same kind of place, in broad strokes. The difference is strategy to get there. The best strategy will be crafted by those willing to acknowledge the most pertinent data, such as the experiment in importing Muslims which Europe has conducted for us.

Ex-Army:
Great points from both. Katie is dead right about the SJW's. They are guilty of all the excesses that they accuse us wrongly of. And of course the Alt-right is all about defending and preserving Western Civilization, which is a nice way of summarizing the bundle of values (to use a word the left is fond of misusing) that motivates us all.

And Matt is also right. It's far to easy to judge the alleged excesses of the Axis in Europe, when we don't have Stalin breathing down our necks and using every sort of brutal method to destroy us. And, seriously, that was a pretty extreme war on the Western Front as well, and if you condemn Axis behavior, what can you say about Dresden during the war [link] and Operation Keelhaul [link] afterwards.

We were stupidly fighting on the side of the Soviet Union, spending American blood and treasure to preserve its existence. We "won," and the Axis' plan to wipe communism out failed. So we had to cope with communist aggression and insurgency overseas for the following decades. And now we're having to cope with the violent "protesters" who are best thought of as spores of the dead USSR.

And that's as extreme as I'm going to get today.
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Quibcags: The first is illustrated by Maria from Hayate the Combat Butler (ハヤテのごとく! Hayate no Gotoku!)., superimposed on what looks like an abyss. Number two is another superimposition, Mugi of K-On! (けいおん! Keion!)  on a still of King Kong and Godzilla.

5 comments:

  1. Love the quibag, brought back some childhood memories.

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  2. When a Cuckservative says we cannot become our enemies, what he means is stop trying to win. Americans love a winner, and will not tolerate a loser. The Mitty Bush League has been thrown out. Their RINOs now face a hostile audience back home. This cry of fascism will bounce back against them. After a certain point, the only point is striking back. These constant calls for civility by the Lincoln Log Cabin ignores the obvious escalation by the enemy. Eventually, this fire will engulf the Left in a Giant Conflagration. At that point, we need no longer fight, but simply keep them from escaping the fires they started themselves.

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  3. The best reason for Dresden was by Air Marshal Sir Arthur Harris when he took over Bomber Command in 1942

    "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."

    They didn't mind dishing it out.

    As for Operation Keelhaul, people forget how many Allied personnel were in Soviet controlled territory. If we played games and started to decide which Soviet citizens would go back and which won't, are you really going to suggest that the Soviets wouldn't have played right along and kept our people?

    Mark Moncrieff
    Upon Hope Blog - A Traditional Conservative Future

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  4. My only semi Nietzsche quote is quite simple, "That which does not kill me better run like billy be damned."

    Hitler was at a disadvantage, he was crazy. Stalin wasn't.
    Hitler bit first. BTW, we still beat The Commies.

    Point of interest, Russian birthrates went into decline at the same time the US was experiencing the baby boom and have continued to do so. (So has most of Europe's BTW after you subtract birthrates among immigrant groups.
    Currently US birthrate is exploding (a solid 10% or better since 9/11.). This is a hint that the US "Ecology" has a greater carrying capacity.

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  5. Disagree with Katie. The SJWs have always been around and have always control freaks. Non crazy left leaning people thought that their excesses were fine because they meant well. Then the SJWs started turning on those who where their supposed allies. The left leaning let them come to power, and want to pretend they had nothing to do with it. That is a lie than can not be let go.

    Matt is wrong as well. Its not the 1970's anymore, and if he wants to win, he needs to acknowledge that. The rank and left and right do not want to live in the same type of country. Many of the sane leftists still think the DNC is the party from the 1970's. The kindest thing you can do is force them to understand the monsters they currently support.

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