Tuesday, April 5, 2016

Disingenuousness


Disingenuousness abounds out there, virtually always on the left. Actual rightists almost never descend into it. But it's extremely common among leftists, who love to pretend not to know exactly what you mean, and also among a certain breed of libertarian. Not just left-libertarians, either, because I remember hearing it from Randites years ago.

For your entertainment, I reproduce an exchange from Facebook called to my attention by Eli Harman and Matt Bailey. I've replaced the names and icons with "Libertwerp" and "Realist" for obvious reasons.

It is interesting that our current version of libertarian would see the rapes by Muslim invaders in public pools in Germany as evidence that there should be no public pools, not at all as evidence that Germany shouldn't welcome Muslim invaders.

Do pass this one around. Ask self-proclaimed "libertarians" to comment on it. See if they display disingenuousness, too. I'll bet they do.

6 comments:

  1. I'm actually too autistic to understand the humor of the cartoon.


    Not faking it. Actually don't understand the humor.

    My autism needs humor that's immediately obvious.

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  2. That's complaint #2, so I've decided that I erred. I was using "autistic" in its popular sense of "tone-deaf" or "missing the obvious," without intended to refer to the actual condition, but it appears that a lot of people interpret it as referring to the condition, so to avoid that, i've changed it to "SMARMY LIBERTARIANISM," whiich is not quite the same message originally intended, but which will do.

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  3. It is interesting that our current version of libertarian would see the rapes by Muslim invaders in public pools in Germany as evidence that there should be no public pools, not at all as evidence that Germany shouldn't welcome Muslim invaders.

    Well, I'm as much of a libertarian as "Libertwerp" and I consider the issue of Muslim invaders in public swim pools in Germany as evidence that the Muslim invaders should be removed from Germany. Whether or not there should be public pools is a separate issue. People in any given society do have the right, both individually and collectively, to defend their societies from outsiders who would seek to destroy them.

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    1. You're MORE of a libertarian than Libertwerp because you believe in _sustainable, realistic_ libertarianism. There are plenty like you and me, but Libertwerp and his sisters seem to have the loudest voices these days.

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  4. More specifically, people who build things (e.g. engage in productive enterprise) have both the right and responsibility to defend what they build from those who would destroy it.

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  5. Kurt9:
    Whether or not there should be public pools is a separate issue.
    Swimming pools are something that due to use patterns and costs it makes more sense to be a joint effort. Ever maintained a private pool? Quite costly (price the chemicals and filter medium) and time consuming (for routine cleaning, more extensive cleaning, more extensive time) for something that in reality, won't get nearly as much use as you think it will.
    Even with private pools you (the pool owner) need to set rules such as the classic ''OOL, there's no P in it, please keep it that way!'' ect.
    Other problems muzzies bring is many don't shower first, and those that do won't remove their underwear to do so and will even wear that underwear under swimwear into the pool (brings a lot of filth into the water with them, there goes those chemical costs!) and of course, the fact that for male muzzies, any child (male or female, doesn't matter) or woman within arm's reach is a 'whore' and 'needs' the *ahem* 'attentions' of the muzzie male.
    Then the community gets told ''because they're refugees, and 'poor' not only do they not have to help pay to maintain the facilities, they can't be barred for not keeping their hands to themselves''.

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