Monday, September 8, 2014

Mangan on Scottish Independence

Another guest post by Baloo.

I've been doing research on the movement for Scottish independence mainly by watching Outlander, and I'd much rather dress up like those guys than like Tony Blair or this Cameron guy, so I'm a little biased in favor of it. In fact, in a minor way, I do dress up like those guys, as in the photo.

But I actually sort of am in favor of an independent Scotland, on the theory that if it stays in the UK it'll definitely go to hell with it, but it might have a chance to revive itself as an independent state. But I'm not really optimistic. Now, if they pick the right king, it might just work. This could be their chance to really win the Battle of Culloden for a change.

You can take my life, but you can't take my freedom. This would also be a chance for them to reform their godawful spelling — I don't mean English spelling, which has its own downside, but the spelling of Gàidhlig, which is what they call their native Scottish Celtic language. "Gàidhlig," believe it or not, seems to be pronounced just like the English word "colic." (listen to the Wikipedia pronunciation here) Actually, all the Celtic languages are pronounced weirdly. But whether they do fix the language, or opt for King Mel I, independence would surely mean changes. Here's Mangan's take on it, from

What's the point of independence?

Scotland will soon vote independence up or down, and current polls show that up is leading. The powers that be are having conniptions, with Gordon Brown saying that Scottish independence may blow up the welfare state and the NHS. Really, that's the best he can do. Supposedly Buckingham Palace is in panic.

But whatever. What exactly is the point of independence? Scotland will have the same destructive leftist policies, and perhaps even more mass immigration. Other than football teams, scones, and beer, do the Scots really care about being Scottish? And I say that as someone with a lot of Scottish blood in his veins.

Carlos Esteban, over on Twitter, put it quite well: "Shopping for the same Chinese trinkets under the same grey civil servants with the same discourse and the same PC pieties." Yup.

One gets the impression that the Scots might do this more out of hatred for the English than for love of their own nation, or identification with it. That doesn't seem a very good reason - but then, I don't live there.

Independence is neither necessary nor sufficient for a national revival.

Added: For a different take on this, and how Scottish independence would deal a blow to the left, see Outside in's latest.

And you should go to the original here
And read the comments.


  1. If I was King I would get them back online fast.

  2. However, ye urny the king, and yer no a Scot either, so either way, wind yer neck in pal.