American libertarians tend not to think ahead to such things, and self-righteously cooperate with liberals and neocons to advocate open borders, partly out of a reluctance to think, partly out of the idiotic idea that crossing a border changes the way a person thinks, and partly because they can't do math.
British libertarians are a bit more sophisticated. They seem to know better than we do that third-world immigrants are a few thousand years, and maybe a few genes, short of evolving into the sort of people who can even understand, let alone accept, the NAP. This from the Libertarian Alliance, which realizes that when savages move in, bad social attitudes drive out the good ones ("Plod" is British slang for "police."):
£100 Reward for Conviction of Real Hate Criminal
by Dr Sean GabbThis awful crime is worth mentioning.
If a native in a ski mask had punched Miss Oni on the nose while shouting “White Power!” the Plod would have torn the place apart in search of the villain. Every inch of CCTV footage would have been examined. Every known or probable BNP and EDL member within a five mile radius would have been pulled in for questioning. Someone would eventually have been found, and the Beeb would have given the resulting trial blanket publicity.
Instead, she was a non-white living in a Moslem area and dressing like a “goreh.” If some demented, and probably jealous, cow got up as a black pillar box chose to ruin her life with a pot of acid, that was only the enforcement of “community standards.” The Plod seem to have logged the crime, before going back to their preferred job of persecuting motorists. And they whine that no one likes them.
Women’s equality is one of the glories of our civilisation. If a woman wants to hide her face and body from view, that should be her right. Equally, if a woman wants to take pride in her charms, that should be her right. It was rightly established thirty years ago that dressing “provocatively” was no mitigation for sexual assault. Where are the feminists and the lefties now to scream blue murder at this?
I hope the plastic surgeons can put Miss Oni back together. The Libertarian Alliance offers a reward of £100 for any information that leads to the arrest and punishment of whoever did this to her. We wish it could be a hundred times that much.
(The original post, with several comments added, is HERE.)
Actually the NAP or ZAP (zero aggression policy) is that one does not initiate force, The defensive use of force is permitted, in fact required to make things work. " Iwon't start the fight, but I sure as hell will finish it."
ReplyDelete"The first point here, then, is that a libertarian society has to be made up of people who accept the NAP. You can't let anybody in who doesn't. So immediately we have a paradox. You have to use force to keep people out who don't accept the NAP."
ReplyDeletePeople moving into a community that does not want them there is an act of aggression, therefore under the NAP it is permissible to use violence to keep them out.
People *threatening* to move into a community that does not want them there is intimidation, which is coercion, which is aggression, therefore under the NAP it is permissible to use violence, preemptively if necessary, to keep them out.
No paradox there.
"Some would argue that no, you don't keep them out"
Some would argue that huffing paint is good hobby...what is your point?
"American libertarians tend not to think ahead to such things"
What American libertarians? Last time I checked they don't exist. I have never met an American libertarian, though went I visited the US I did meet a bunch of people who liked to pretend they are libertarians and did an awesome job of fooling themselves into believing it.
But they are all for open borders, and law-mandated gender equality and racial equality...now riddle me this:
The only borderline Libertarian society that ever existed on this planet (founded by a bunch of guys among whom were a few that were instrumental in creating the very concept) had borders, a navy to protect them, a very limited voting body politic that did not include females, considered American mongoloid aboriginals violent savages and African negroids 3/5ths of a man.
So how the f*** can American libertarians hold open borders and all that diversity kumbaya liberal pablum to be sine qua non conditions of libertarianism?
Simple, they aren't libertarians at all, they are moderate liberals who want more economic freedoms so they can make more money...oh, and legal pot, so they can smoke lots of it.
"British libertarians are a bit more sophisticated."
Methinks you are putting them on an ill-deserved pedestal. The simple fact is that the invasive humanoid species that blight their lands, unlike the garden variety American ones, have not been so thoroughly sedated. The UK can't and could not afford the trillions of dollars Uncle Sam stole from white Americans at gunpoint and pissed away to assuage the local people of color.
Since the animals in the UK are hungrier they attack more often, so the natives are more aware of the reality of the problem.
Sophistication hardly has anything to do with it; call it "empiricism". Just because they have a cool accent doesn't mean the British are any smarter. I know, for I lived there for years.